Hi friend, have you considered that this may be God? This presents the possibility that Methuselah knew the man in a way that made naming his son reasonable. Enoch, Seth’s great-great-great grandson, walked so closely with God that God took him directly to heaven when Enoch was 365 years old (Genesis 5:22–24). Methusaleh, 187 years old, fathered Lamech. As a collective whole, mankind was certainly violent and sensuous, but in the end, they all died because “they didn’t know” (as Messiah is quoted above). Lamech definition: the son of Enoch , and the father of Jabal, Jubal, and Tubal-cain. “Two wives”: No reason is given on Lamech’s part for the first recorded instance of bigamy. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. That must’ve been some fortress, because there’s a chance that Enoch – a descendant of Seth – was named after it. לֶמֶךְ) was one of the antediluvian patriarchs in Genesis.According to the list recounting the lineage of Cain (Gen. 4:17–24 – ascribed to the J tradition), Lamech was the son of Methushael (4:18) and the father of three sons, Jabal, Jubal, and Tubal-Cain, and a daughter, Naamah (4:20–22).His wives were Adah and Zillah (4:19). Lamech was also the first recording of polygamy in the bible, as well as a murderer. Enoch’s son Methusaleh (the oldest man recorded in the Bible) continued the righteous line and fathered Lamech (verse 25). The Sethite line also gives ages at fatherhood and at death. Assuming that Enoch was named after an impressive fortress, the fact remains, Enoch broke from the trajectory the rest of his peers were headed towards. The rest of the story is missing. This Enoch here seemed to be the ancestor of some earthly controlled people, as we will see in the following verses. The former Lamech is fifth from Cain, but the latter Lamech is seventh from Seth. There are no other quotes in either genealogy, except from these two who share a namesake. Luke 3:37 Which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan, Genesis 5:28-31 And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son: …. Lineage of Enoch. Since the family's reputation was at stake, something had to be done. Noah, 500 years old, fathered Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Lamech likely lived near the city of Enoch that his great-great-great grandfather, Cain built. The Book of Enoch, by R.H. Charles, [1917], at sacred-texts.com. This is exactly what I believe Genesis 5 shows (aside from the genealogy of Seth of course). However, the name given to his grandson was “Lamech”. This book reveals the loving closeness of the family of Jared, Enoch, Methuselah, Lamech and Noah. According to the aggadic tradition, Lamech took two wives, one for sexual pleasure and the other for procreation. Jude 14-15 records Enoch’s preaching: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly acts they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” ◊. In my last post I described “profaning the name of YHVH” as the gateway transgression, after which come all other transgressions. The very fact that Enoch “walked with God” is an indication that his contemporaries were not; they were more concerned with fortresses, their fields, eating and drinking, building harems, and so forth (cf. Genesis 5:21-24 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah: …. However, the name given to his grandson was “Lamech”. The individual books of 1 Enoch were written between 300 and 100 B.C. ( Log Out /  Ever prophetically speaking to us, the Bible shows that all descendants of Adam – whether they hail from Cain’s line or Seth’s – had reached their personal breaking point of “Lamech”, for better or for worse. Something odd has been happening to me and I don’t really know how to explain it. 1. In arrogance, Lamech presumes upon the mercy and kindness of our Creator, viewing the absence of strict justice as liberation for him to do evil. Lamech is the antithesis of Enoch, yet Lamech and Enoch are intended to be viewed as actors on the same stage, continuing the tension first displayed in Cain and Abel. Gen . I think im starting to freak is both out a little. Genesis 5:29-5:31, Beware the Jackpot of…, Genesis 5:29-5:31, Beware of Transgression’s Jackpot | Standing In The Eleventh Hour, Follow Standing In The Eleventh Hour on WordPress.com. The son of Methushael and a descendant of Cain. And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah. I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to write and confirm that there was indeed two (2) different Enoch’s. And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech. He is a sixth-generation descendant of Cain (Genesis 4:18); his father was named Methushael, and he was responsible for the "Song of the Sword". (Ge 4:17, 18) His lifetime and Adam’s overlapped. Cain or of Seth? My question is, why? Had it not been for your thought’s i would’ve continued to believe that I was starting to really go crazy. The son of Methuselah and grandson of Enoch . Moreover, the Noah fragment in i Enoch 106 contains the … Enoch: 622: 65: 365: 987* Methuselah: 687: 187: 969: 1656: Lamech: 874: 182: 777: 1651: Noah: 1056: 500: Timespans in the Bible are typically recorded in terms of people’s ages, events, and king’s reigns. In Genesis 5 it talks about “When Enoch had lived 65 years, he became the father of Methuselah……When Methuselah had lived 187 years he became the father of Lamech.” Back in Genesis 4 it says “To Enoch was born Irad, and Irad was the father of Mehujael, and Mehujael was the father of Methushael, and Mathushael was the father from Lamech.” Genesis 5:21-24 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah: … Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he … Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, Genesis 5:25-27 And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech: …. Seth’s genealogy includes ages as benchmarks, and if we do the math, Enoch was still alive to see the birth of his grandson, which was a brisk 113 years before he taken. There will come a time again when we will have a chance to be taken, but if we envy successful people while ignoring their injustices done to others, or are preoccupied with entertainment, our careers, working, the opposite sex, and anything else aside from doing God’s will, we too will miss our Enoch moment, and perish like those in the Great Flood. Adam was alive when Lamech, Noah's father, was born, and he died just 126 years before Noah was born. Lamech is a person in Cain's genealogy in the fourth chapter of the Book of Genesis. Denomination: Church Of God. Be awake and follow Yeshua. Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. Clearly no one else was joining Enoch in his walk, in fact it appears that in those days Enoch’s relatives were looking to the successes of Cain’s line, as well as the other distractions mentioned by both Moses (Gen.  6:1-5) and especially Messiah Yeshua: “As the days of Noah were, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in those days which were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ship, and they didn’t know until the flood came, and took them all away…” (Matthew 24:37-39). Methuselah lived longer than anyone else recorded in the Bible: 969 years Methuselah died the same year that the great flood waters came upon the earth, so he either died in the flood itself, or died shortly before the flood arrived. Ingrid, the texts of that book are traditionally attributed to the latter Enoch, the one taken. I said a prayer for you, I hope He will give you understanding in this life. Lamech lived 777 years. Lamech definition, the son of Enoch, and the father of Jabal, Jubal, and Tubal-cain. Methuselah was the son of Enoch, the father of Lamech, and the grandfather of Noah. Genesis 4:18. See more. Anyone can spot that some of the names are common between the two geneaologies. Henoch, Methuselah, Lamech, Henoch. The Enoch from Seths line is the one most think of when they say Enoch. Shalom. Enoch was notable for the closeness of his relationship with God: “When Enoch had lived 65 years, he fathered Methuselah. 19. Many of Lamech's ancestors were likely alive and also lived in the vicinity of Enoch. Methuselah listened attentively as Lamech revealed this strange story, then promised his son that he would seek the advice of his father, the wise and godly Enoch. Now I realize that’s complete speculation, but at any rate, Enoch might’ve been named after a fortress of Cain, but he definitely didn’t go the “way of Cain” – he “walked with God, and was not, for God took him.” (Gen. 5:24). Thanks for sharing. Genesis 4:15-19 (KJV) One … By comparing Lamech's saying with the age of Enoch at his death, we may deduce from Scripture that Lamech (by himself or with a mob) stilled Enoch's voice by murder. That last paragraph is completely true for us in this time! Thus this a hint that Enoch’s son Methusaleh was inspired by… the violent entrepreneur, even as his father was demonstrating intimacy with the One True God. (For an explanation of why Lamech was so famous, read this recent post). He has studied different religions and know’s alot about his bible and when I tell him things Ive been seeing or the things that have popped into my head he will look up what he is not sure about and sais good job. Enoch had a son named [L To Enoch was born; C and so through the rest of the genealogy] Irad, Irad had a son named Mehujael, Mehujael had a son named Methushael, and Methushael had a son named Lamech. Genesis 4:25). It wasn’t that these men were necessarily egregious in their sins. Cain and Abel were not only the two sons of Eve, they were also the human beginning of what would develop into two opposing kingdoms—the kingdom of God and the kingdom of Satan. After Methuselah's birth, he walked with God for 300 years and sired other children. Enoch, whose name meant "the intelligent" or "the learned," sensed the meaning of what had happened. Referred to as the Apocryphal Genesis, the ancient text describes the lives of Noah, Abraham, Enoch and Lamech, characters from the book of Genesis, and most importantly, the passages are not narrated in the third person, but it is Noah himself who tells the story. Enoch walked with God after he fathered Methuselah 300 years and … Hebrew tradition reveals that Noah, the great grandson of Enoch, had to flee for his life in order to carry out the Work of God. This was recorded for our benefit, so that Mankind can be portrayed in that pre-Flood world as one “Lamech” or the other. Your email address will not be published. This is no accident; both men’s words show how Mankind had shifted to two extremes – one to the uber-violent while the other became ultra-oppressed. Thus it appears that Cain’s ancestors were on a fast track to perdition, while the descendants of Seth gradually followed the influences of Cain’s descendants. Lamech was the first recorded polygamist in the Bible, taking two women named Adah and Zillah. Wives and Children The first similarity is the name “Enoch”, which first appears as the name of Cain’s son, who became the namesake of a fortress Cain was building at the time (cf. That’s right, it was Lamech, the violent entrepreneur in the line of Cain. Enoch was chosen by God as the best of all humans. Basic HTML is allowed. I am not a person who has read the bible, but I have been knowing things and seeing things that even trip my boyfriend out. Like with the naming of his father Enoch (Jared's son). Methuselah later had a son named Lamech. I was wondering if you know which Enoch wrote the “Book Of Enoch”? Enoch, 65 years old, fathered Methusaleh. As we read about this profaning, or polluting, of the Name (which could literally be understood as YHVH’s reputation, or legacy), it’s sandwiched between Cain’s geneaology – which ends with multiple blasphemies and evils spoken by Lamech – and Seth’s geneaology – which ends with stressful words of the other Lamech, who was the father of Noah. I like to imagine that God was so want of intimacy with men in those days that He literally took it where He could find it – in this case, the soul of Enoch. The former Lamech spouts off elitist and violent words, while the latter Lamech agonizes over the stress and adversity of life. Thus, Cain’s ancestral line (at least, our written record of it) ends abruptly, but I believe this is completely by design. Lamech’s sin is worse than Cain’s because of his boast that those who take revenge on him will be avenged seventy-seven fold (Gen. 4:24). Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Yes there are 2 men by the name of lamech inGenesis 1. Lamech (Heb. Lamech, 182 years old, fathered Noah. Scripture: Genesis 4:19, Genesis 4:23-26, Genesis 5:21-24. 1Ch iCh i Ch 1 chr 1chr) Christian Bible Study Resources, Dictionary, Concordance and Search Tools. 24:37-38). Genesis 4:19 "And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one [was] Adah, and the name of the other Zillah." If you read my blog, you can't miss what motivates me. He is also noted as the first polygamist mentioned in the Bible, taking two wives, Adah and Zillah (Tselah). Don't think this strange or unusual. Lamech & Enoch Series Contributed by Edward Hardee on Sep 22, 2020 (message contributor) (rate this sermon) | 354 views. Genesis 5:29-5:31, Beware the Jackpot of…Genesis 4:25-26, The Gateway Transg…. ( Log Out /  Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Well done! 4:18 | Meaning, pronunciation, translations and examples Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. Some point to a particular passage which describes an account from Enoch’s grandson, Lamech, during the birth of his son, which read: “ And his father, Lamech, was afraid of him and fled, and come to his father Methuselah. Thank you. The Ethiopic Apocalypse of Enoch or 1 Enoch (formerly known as the Book of Enoch) is a pseudepigraphal compilation of five originally independent works attributed to Enoch (Gen. 5:18–24). ). Methusaleh lived 969 years – the oldest man in the bible. He was the 7th descendant from Adam, as was Lamech on the other side. Nice said. Still worried, Lamech asked his father Methuselah (who died at the age of 969) to apply to his grandfather Enoch, who had disappeared at the age of 365 and won his "dwelling-place among the angels. Change ). There seems to have had been at least communication between the two tribes. Lamech, the father of Noah, is mentioned in the Apocrypha in Jubilees 4:27–28 and i Enoch 10:1, and in Jubilees 7:38 some emphasis is put on the fact that it was he who transmitted the teaching of Enoch to Noah. Enoch was taken when he was 365 years old. And who was Enoch’s most famous contemporary? Summary: A series on Characters in the Bible that has enough information about them that you can put on a postcard. CHAPTER X. Gen. 5:28, 6:2; Matt. ( Log Out /  However, I would caution using modern translations – I am not sure any of those books, such as the ones that came from Ethiopia, is the same as quoted by the Apostle James. Interestingly, these men were quite opposite of each other, Enoch was a righteous man, Lamech was a worldly, ungodly man. Gen. 4:17). Chosen by God. Enoch was born of the lineage of Seth, Cain's brother. And now make known to thy son Lamech that he who has been born is in truth his son, and call his name Noah; for he shall be left to you, and he and his sons shall be saved from the destruction, which shall come upon the earth on account of all the sin and all the unrighteousness, which shall be consummated on the earth in his days. He is the only way, truth and love. But what immortal Enoch told Lamech about the future architect is unknown. What this book nor the Bible do reveal, is the profound grief Noah must have felt as he was safely in the Ark with his wife, sons and daughters-in-law, while all his … I don’t believe in biblical coincidences; I think that such “coincidences” are invitations to dig deeper, so let’s shovel some ideas. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. How certain can we be of which line it came from? Adam and Eve attempted to raise their children to be righteous as Abel was righteous, by Eve’s own admission (cf. When he was 65 years old, Enoch's son Methuselah was born. However, just two generations later, Mankind as a whole “began to profane the name of YHVH.” Therefore the question becomes: ‘how did the descendants of Seth stray?’  By all appearances, Cain’s descendants reached the point of ‘Lamech’ within five generations, while Seth’s ancestors reached their tipping point in seven. They could have known, had they followed Enoch’s example, but it appears no one wanted to know except God, so God took him. ( Log Out /  Lamech, Son of Methuselah (לֶ֫מֶךְ ‎, lemekh; Λάμεχ, Lamech). Lamech shared a name with the notorious Cainite who had boasted of killing at least two men. Seth’s genealogy includes ages as benchmarks, and if we do the math, Enoch was still alive to see the birth of his grandson, which was a brisk 113 years before he taken. Luke 3:36 Which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was the son of Lamech, Enoch -- four Israelites, sons of Cain, Jered, Midian and Reuben, Methuselah -- perhaps 'man of the dart', a descendant of Seth, Lamech -- a descendant of Cain, also a descendant of Seth, OT History: 1 Chronicles 1:3 Enoch Methuselah Lamech (1 Chron. Not to be confused with Lamech, son of Methushael, who is mentioned in Gen 4:18. Descendant of Seth and father of Noah (Gen 5:28–29). 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